Poland, Damn It! Houses CIA/MI6 Ghost Prison, Blair Knew

I like Poland, it has produced some great art, I’ve met some extremely lovely Polish women and it has been badly treated by it’s neighbours for a long time so it pains me to have to say Poland, Damn it!- Larisa Alexandrovna and Raw Story put the MSM to shame again:-

The CIA operated an interrogation and short-term detention facility for suspected terrorists within a Polish intelligence training school with the explicit approval of British and US authorities, according to British and Polish intelligence officials familiar with the arrangements.

Intelligence officials identify the site as a component of a Polish intelligence training school outside the northern Polish village of Stare Kiejkuty. While previously suspected, the facility has never been conclusively identified as being part of the CIA’s secret rendition and detention program.

Only the Polish prime minister and top Polish intelligence brass were told of the plan, in which agents of the United States quietly shuttled detainees from other holding facilities around the globe for stopovers and short-term interrogation in Poland between late 2002 and 2004.

According to a confidential British intelligence memo shown to RAW STORY, Prime Minister Tony Blair told Poland’s then-Prime Minister Leszek Miller to keep the information secret, even from his own government.

In April 2002, according to British foreign intelligence sources (MI6), senior officials in the Bush and Blair administrations decided that the Bagram base near Kabul in Afghanistan could not operate successfully in the Bush administration’s “no holds barred” policy towards suspected terrorists.

MI6 officials say the two administrations then decided to fly high-value suspected terrorists to secret gulags in Eastern Europe. The CIA-operated flights would pass through the air space of a number of countries – among them Britain, Germany, Spain and Poland. European Union officials and human rights groups would later say these interrogations may have violated the Geneva Conventions and the United Nations Convention against Torture, to which the United States and Poland are both signatories. –

Oh yeah, and Anthony didn’t know anything about rendition. If Blair gets to stand down on his timetable and never goes to prison for all the shit he has done, I shall not be happy. And I repeat the official Ten Percent policy on Blair– So just fuckity fucking fuck off you fucking fuck.

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Ghost CIA Dungeon Near Szymany, Poland

Der Spiegel digs up more about the torture program as manifested in Poland (along with the missile ‘shield’ another reason Krystian Zimerman won’t be playing in the Empire no more, boycott divestment sanctions…) and still no UK journo will ask Blair of his knowledge of this ‘prison’ bearing in mind-

Prime Minister Tony Blair told Poland’s then-Prime Minister Leszek Miller to keep the information secret, even from his own government.

So-

New Evidence of Torture Prison in Poland

By John Goetz and Britta Sandberg

The current debate in the US on the “special interrogation methods” sanctioned by the Bush administration could soon reach Europe. It has long been clear that the CIA used the Szymany military airbase in Poland for extraordinary renditions. Now there is evidence of a secret prison nearby.

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Polish Intel Admit CIA Prisons & Remember- Blair Knew

BBC September 6 2008-

Polish intelligence sources have for the first time confirmed that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) ran a secret prison facility on Polish soil. The admission comes after a report found the CIA had operated prisons for terror suspects in Poland and Romania.

Two anonymous intelligence officers made the claims about facilities being located in Poland in the daily Dziennik. One of them states that between 2002 and 2005 the CIA held terror suspects inside a military intelligence training base in Stare Kiejkuty in north-eastern Poland. The officer says only the CIA had access to the isolated zone, which was used because it was a secure site far from major towns and was close to a former military airport.

Both the then Prime Minister, Leszek Miller, and President, Aleksander Kwasniewski, knew about the base, the newspaper reports. However the officer says it was unlikely either man knew if the prisoners were being tortured because the Poles had no control over the Americans’ activities. Both leaders have always denied the existence of any such base.

5th October 2007-

RAW STORY’s Larisa Alexandrovna revealed the exact location of a CIA black site in Poland in February of this year.

Intelligence officials identified the site as a component of a Polish intelligence training school outside the northern Polish village of Stare Kiejkuty. While previously suspected, the facility had never been conclusively identified as being part of the CIA’s secret rendition and detention program.

Only the Polish prime minister and top Polish intelligence brass were told of the plan, in which agents of the United States quietly shuttled detainees from other holding facilities around the globe for stopovers and short-term interrogation in Poland between late 2002 and 2004.

According to a confidential British intelligence memo shown to RAW STORY, Prime Minister Tony Blair told Poland’s then-Prime Minister Leszek Miller to keep the information secret, even from his own government.

My previous posts on Blair and the CIA ‘ghost’ prisons hacks in the UK fail to ask him about.

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Black Site Ghost Prisons Still Operating, Blair Knew & Dems Support them

Hidden in the long article that showed the Bush administration lies completely about their torture program, (shock horror!)-

The secret CIA overseas detention program first exposed by the Washington Post remains active, according to a senior US counterterrorism official who went on the record in Thursday’s New York Times. Little attention has been paid to the revelation, aside from a Reuters story late Thursday.

RAW STORY‘s Larisa Alexandrovna revealed the exact location of a CIA black site in Poland in February of this year.

Intelligence officials identified the site as a component of a Polish intelligence training school outside the northern Polish village of Stare Kiejkuty. While previously suspected, the facility had never been conclusively identified as being part of the CIA’s secret rendition and detention program.

Only the Polish prime minister and top Polish intelligence brass were told of the plan, in which agents of the United States quietly shuttled detainees from other holding facilities around the globe for stopovers and short-term interrogation in Poland between late 2002 and 2004.

According to a confidential British intelligence memo shown to RAW STORY, Prime Minister Tony Blair told Poland’s then-Prime Minister Leszek Miller to keep the information secret, even from his own government.

“Miller was asked to keep it as tight as possible,” the memo said.

My posts on Blair here, now the Dems, the loyal opposition puppets and cave in professionals-

Democrats also dropped a demand for the Director of Central Intelligence to identify and hand over documentation related to secret prisons run by the US government around the world and operations involving extraordinary rendition.

Sources tell RAW STORY that although Director of National Intelligence John McConnell was not willing to provide the information to relevant oversight Senate committees, the Committee felt comfortable in removing the requirement from the authorization bill because the Director of Central Intelligence, General Michael Hayden, had given them “everything we needed.”

And being lied into a genocide causing war? Nah, don’t bother-

Sources close to the Senate Intelligence Committee say one of the compromises Democrats made to ensure the bill’s passage was to remove language demanding the White House turn over all Presidential Daily Briefings on Iraq prior to the 2003 invasion. Democrats are said to have been hoping to establish whether President Bush mischaracterized intelligence in the lead-up to the conflict.

Your Imperial Senate at work, All Hail the Empire!

CIA Ghost Prisons Return To Haunt Blair

Well they would if a single fucking journo with that sacred hack prize- access, would take Blair’s cock out of their mouth long enough to ask him about this:

Allegations of secret meetings held by Britain and the United States surrounding the detention of terror suspects — and an invitation from officials in the administrations of US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair that Poland join the project in 2002…Blair is to have asked that Miller not inform cabinet ministers about the facility.

Because today it is irrefutable that we, NATO and the US signed up for this, oh and by the way ‘Lord’ Robertson is a former Chairman of NuLabour Scotland and defence secretary. Blair knew (Brown too, undoubtedly) and he has lied about it.

The CIA operated secret prisons in Europe where terrorism suspects could be interrogated and were allegedly tortured, an official inquiry will conclude tomorrow. Despite denials by their governments, senior security officials in Poland and Romania have confirmed to investigators for the Council of Europe that their countries were used to hold some of America’s most important prisoners captured after 9/11 in secret.

None of the prisoners had access to the Red Cross and many were subject to what George Bush has called the CIA’s “enhanced” interrogation methods. These included water-boarding which leads detainees to believe they are drowning, which critics have condemned as severe torture.

The council has also established that within weeks of the 9/11 attacks, Nato signed an agreement with the US that allowed civilian jets used by the CIA during its so-called extraordinary rendition programme to move across member states’ airspace.

The report states: “We have sufficient grounds to declare that the highest state authorities were aware of the CIA’s illegal activities on their territories.”

On October 4 2001, Nato’s then secretary-general, Lord Robertson, had said alliance members had agreed to grant “blanket over-flight clearances” as well as basing rights to US forces involved in the so-called war on terror. Although Lord Robertson referred only to military flights, the full text of the agreement has remained classified.

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Polish Media Are Talking About the Secret ‘Ghost’ Prison, Why Not The UK?

Polish newspapers seized on the story in Thursday’s papers. Allegations of secret meetings held by Britain and the United States surrounding the detention of terror suspects — and an invitation from officials in the administrations of US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair that Poland join the project in 2002 — were widely discussed on morning talk shows.

And:-

Poland’s former prime minister Leszek Miller on Thursday denied a fresh report alleging EU and NATO member Poland had hosted secret jails for terror suspects operated by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

‘Once again I refute that there were secret prisons in Poland,’ Miller said Thursday, quoted by the Polish PAP news agency. ‘Tony Blair never spoke with me about this because there was nothing to talk about,’ he said.

Blair is to have asked that Miller not inform cabinet ministers about the facility.-

So when does a UK journo ask Blair on the record?

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Extraordinary Rendition: Our Subservient Role

al-Rawi, 39, was only held after MI5 sent the CIA a telegram, stating he was an ‘Islamic extremist’ who had a timer for an improvised bomb in his luggage. In reality, before al-Rawi left London, police confirmed the device was a battery charger from Argos.

Well that’s me guilty, my Uniross 2 hr sprint charger damns me as a dangerous terrorist. Bisher al-Rawi’s case is ‘extraordinary’ he worked for MI5, they threw him to the CIA wolves while to this day lying that they didn’t-

The committee accepted MI5’s claim, given in secret testimony, that it had not wanted the Americans to arrest him, in November 2002, concluding the incident had damaged US-UK relations.

But al-Rawi alleged that the CIA told him they had been given the contents of his own MI5 file – information he had given his handlers freely when he was working as their source. He said an MI5 lawyer had given him ‘cast iron’ assurances that anything he told them would be treated in the strictest confidence and, if he ever got into trouble, MI5 would do everything in its power to help him.

Scumbag MP’s are going to play nice an accept their testimony? After all ACPO has said there were no flights while at the same time admitting they didn’t really do an investigation. But their dismissal of the charges of our govts. complicity was good enough to be released the same day to refute Marty’s report into rendition, handy that. Dick Marty’s report has since been revealed to have had input from CIA agents disgusted with the torture flights program, so where does that leave ACPO eejit Michael Todd (Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police & admirer of General Patton and ‘Stormin’ Norman Schwartzkopf -no really…, oh the shame) either he is an absolutely incompetent policeman or he is corrupt? Make your choice Mikey, hey I’ll be generous you can pick both if you really want.

There exists a cognitive dissonance in how the govt. relates to the torture kidnapings, publicly they feign ignorance and innocence, while in committees they discuss MI5’s role. Role in what? It never happened, how can we have a role in something we knew nothing about? But further up the trail is not only our wholesale involvement and covering up of the program is Blairs role in actively protecting it, almost no coverage was given of the Polish press reports that Blair put pressure on the Polish govt. to keep the black site ghost prison there secret. Not just okaying flights, not just turning a blind eye to the CIA’s kidnappings, not just in reality helping in the kidnappings, no Blair put the hard word on Polish politicians to keep quiet about the secret imperial gulag site.

So the public perception of the kidnap and torture program is what?…- maybe the govt. probably knew. The govt positon is dissonant, we know nothing, yet we talk in secret committees about our security services involvement. The actual truth is out govt absolutely cooperated, giving aid and comfort to the kidnap & torture program going so far as our PM pressuring other European governments to also cooperate fully. Ok so how long until this actually is revealed and becomes the truthful narrative, a decade? Never? Will any person answer any charges in relation to this in the UK? Will Blair, does parliament care that it was lied to? Do we care that a person can be kidnapped flown to a secret prison and tortured with our govts active cooperation? Do people care this the 21st century and yet we are behaving as if it were still the dark ages?

Perhaps this might come to more prominence with the release of the film ‘Extraordinary Rendition’ directed by Jim Threapleton (Kate Winslet’s ex- maybe the celebrity angle will cause some buzz, although I’m sure he hates being described as such) and starring Andy Serkis (LoTR, King Kong) & Omar Berdouni (United 93, The Hamburg Cell) and currently being accepted at prestigious film festivals across the world. Check out their blog here.

Extraordinary Rendition is an abomination and I hope very much that our film will contribute to the increasing debate on the subject. The arguments against Rendition are stark. For governments that cast themselves as the guardians of democracy and due process to be using such barbaric and criminal methods is a devastating reality for the 21st Century world.

This was put into sharp relief when we shot some of our closing sequence for the film amongst an actual protest outside the U.S Embassy, calling for the closure of Guantanamo. To hear from some of those individuals and families that have found themselves in direct contact with a War on Terror that continues to devastate innocent lives was extremely powerful. – Jim Threapleton

Most importantly will the kidnap & torture programs be stopped? Because right now, nothing, absolutely nothing stands in the way of you being disappeared by American secret services with our govts. approval. Maybe that’s what Brown means about the world owing the US a debt for fighting terrorism, he means the airfares.