Abusive Relationship

The US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, lavishly praised the “special relationship” between the US and Britain after discussions in Washington yesterday with David Miliband, the first foreign minister to meet her in the new job.

How nice…

Evidence of how a British resident held in the Guantánamo Bay detention camp was tortured, and what MI5 knew about it, must remain secret because of serious threats the US has made against the UK, the high court ruled today. The judges made clear they were deeply unhappy with their decision, but said they had no alternative as a result of a statement by David Miliband, the foreign secretary, that if the evidence was disclosed the US would stop sharing intelligence with Britain. That would directly threaten the UK’s national security, Miliband had told the court.

[Lord Justice Thomas and Mr Justice Lloyd Jones]– “Indeed we did not consider that a democracy governed by the rule of law would expect a court in another democracy to suppress a summary of the evidence contained in reports by its own officials … relevant to allegations of torture and cruel, inhumane, or degrading treatment, politically embarrassing though it might be.

“We had no reason … to anticipate there would be made a threat of the gravity of the kind made by the United States Government that it would reconsider its intelligence sharing relationship, when all the considerations in relation to open justice pointed to us providing a limited but important summary of the reports.”

Seems a tad fraught this ‘relationship’. But again like the Saudi BAE pulaver it’s not really smart to take the nationalist bait here, rather recognise ruling classes colluding. Both the US and the UK are guilty of using torture, so such threats help both sets of elites and their agencies (to such an extent that I am sure they concocted them in concert). After all this investigation Jacqui Smith ordered did sound too good to be true. I think I now recognise Miliband, someone who thinks they are a good person but never has the courage to actually do the right thing against prevailing pressure to conform, the sacrifice is always just that bit too much for him to bear. So he builds a bit more denial into his ego and wonders when he’ll get the PM gig. When you’re not willing to end your ascent on principle the only route left is careerism, to believe in the establishment that now holds you ever tighter in its poisonous embrace. A common trait in the technocrats & Atlanticists who dominate the UK establishment.

-Ok, you make a really scary sounding threat and I’ll be all like ‘Oh noes!!!! We must do what they say!!!’ Kewl.

-And we’ll both do our utmost to make sure no one from current or former administrations ever see the inside of a jail cell yeah?



-Fancy another scone?

Previously on what was done to Binyam Mohamed-

The former Kensington caretaker alleges he was repeatedly slashed in the genitals with a razor blade while being held in Morocco. Finally, he was rendered to Guantánamo, where he has spent the past four years.

The lawyer told the judges the US authorities denied that Mohamed had been subjected to extraordinary rendition or torture. But there were strong grounds for believing that MI6 and MI5 held independent evidence supporting his story of torture.

Dr Daniel Creson, a respected psychiatrist from Texas who has extensive experience in the treatment of the victims of torture, warns that the deterioration in Mr Mohamed’s health suggests that he “is reaching the end of his psychological tether”.

Ironically this government recently outlawed ‘extreme pornography’ whereby images of people engaged in [eg.] consensual blood play (among other consensual kinks) are now illegal, yet the government, involved in non-consensual genital torture, is reluctant to let justice be done here. Even though there is clear evidence of extremely violent sexual abuse. Which perhaps explains the ‘special relationship’, one where consent plays no part, just a competition of rapists and torturers all of which naturally is entirely proper and moral when the magic safe word ‘terrorist’ is played.


7 Responses to “Abusive Relationship”

  1. Mike Says:

    I may be a little slow (OK, I admit it – I am a little slow) but I have just discovered Arthur Silber and his Once Upon a Time blog. He is superb. Quote from: Imperial Pageantry for Moronically Idiotic Idiots:

    “I well realize the galactic scope of Americans’ capacity for utterly mindless, contentless, meaningless spectacle. God knows, I’ve written about it often enough. But the absolutely overwhelming amount of colossal shit attendant upon this inauguration (“Look, Mom! Barack made me fly!” — I do not exaggerate even slightly, scroll to about the midpoint of the story) is enough to make anyone who remains remotely sane loathe all mankind throughout all eternity.

    I post this brief message only to let those few of you who have not lost your fucking minds know that you are not alone. Some of us, perhaps three or four hundred, still retain some connection to reality. But it frays and is under lethal attack. Whether the connection will survive the next day or two is an open question. Recourse to alcohol (and/or other substances of your choosing), sex and other diversions might be the wisest choice, until midweek at the earliest. Let’s play safely: make it until the weekend. Hell, through the weekend.”

    And as Obama is the new ‘Bush’, including his continued support for torture, and the war against terror, the egotistical holocaust against humanity continues.

    Go on, Rick, stick him on your blog roll – he is definitely worth it.


    Don’t let the url address put you off. He seems to have changed sites but not the old address – it does take you to: Once Upon a Time.

    (And one day I will work out how to get italic and bold text in to one of these comment boxes – I think you have to html tags on them. I shall go and practice on my site. Later.)

  2. Mike Says:

    As a secondary point and more relevant to the post: politicians are sadists, so torturing someone else is just fine with them. The BDSM crowd are enjoying themselves without hurting anyone (and yes, I know that is slightly illogical – but there is a major difference between a kinky spanking, a la Smax Mosley, and having your genitals attacked with a razor blade – to me anyway). And certainly not in the industrialisation of torture way that politicians do as they slaughter their way through humanity. So the fun has to be stamped out.

    I mean, damn it to hell, you can’t have the public enjoying themselves. The public are there to create wealth in a servile fashion. To listen obsequiously while politicians pronounce how wonderful they, the politicians, are.

    The last thing they want is the public playfully torturing each other for fun – it undermines politicians ability to do so for profit.

  3. Mike Says:

    And as a tertiary comment:

    There is also a piece on the BBC news site about how the US threatened to withdraw intelligence help from the UK if we (some judges investigating the case) made it public about some of these torture incidents.

    From the BBC:

    “The judges said they wanted the full details of the alleged torture to be published in the interests of safeguarding the rule of law, free speech and democratic accountability.

    But they had been persuaded that it was not in the public interest to publish those details as the US government could then “inflict on the citizens of the United Kingdom a very considerable increase in the dangers they face at a time when a serious terrorist threat still pertains”.

    “There is no other terms for what the US intelligence services are doing than blackmail”
    Nick Clegg, Lib Dem leader”

    Nice to know that ‘Special Relationship’ is a two way street.

    The link for the BBC:


  4. libhomo Says:

    To be honest, I suspect the UK would be better off if they cut way back on the special relationship.

    • RickB Says:

      I think maybe the issue is just how much choice we have in doing that, I think our establishment prefers US imperial coat tails to Europe.

  5. ralfast Says:

    I hate to say it, but there is nothing special about abusive relationships like this one. “You is my bitch!” is not what I would consider the proper way to conduct business between erstwhile allies.

  6. RickB Says:

    I think it’s co-dependence from imperial snobs in this case, keeping their torture secrets.

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