Entire BNP Membership List Leaked Online

Via Unity@LC. Lancaster UAF have the story, excerpts-

…this breach of data security is startlingly bad for the BNP, not simply for the fact that the party has lost data – almost everyone seems to have managed to do that recently – but for the nature of that information.

Not only does the data, now available online, include the entire membership list with full names (and former names where there have been changes for any reason), addresses, contact numbers, email addresses and in many cases the member’s age, particularly where those members are under eighteen. Yes, that’s right. This list includes members as young as fourteen, male and female. Where a family membership is bought and paid for, the whole family is listed.

As if this isn’t bad enough, the notes that are attached to many of the entries leave a lot of the members open to difficulties in their jobs, some of them being in the armed forces or the police and the BNP too – an illegal combination, and where not illegal, frequently frowned upon. Other members are noted as construction managers, receptionists, district nurses, lay preachers, police officers, company directors and teachers among many others.

Like this wasn’t enough, the BNP has also listed hobbies or interests where for some reason they are deemed relevant. Thus we have short-wave radio hams, amateur historians, pagans, line-dancers and even a witch (male).

It’s been suggested that the party’s former treasurer John Walker is responsible for posting the list up publicly. We wouldn’t know but by doing so, the poster has stuck a stick of dynamite under Griffin’s rear end. The consequences and the repercussions may be interesting to watch.

Just as a complete aside, I should point out that we do not have a copy of this list, nor do we want one. The information we had was obtained online and appears suddenly to have been removed, at least for the moment…

nb. I will not post links to the list or let comments include links, should any slip through they will be deleted when I find them. It is not impossible to find the list on the intertubes if you must, no one should be persecuted or molested because of their membership but asking people to justify their views and membership of a racist fascist organisation with ties to terrorists is perfectly legitimate. They should be challenged and debated openly. I am happy to rock my politics out in the open as should anyone. And if they are in a sensitive job (of course some professions prohibit membership anyway) it would be correct to review their behaviour and terminate employment if they were manifesting their racist and fascist beliefs to those they have power over or their work colleagues have felt to be discriminated against, as the law sets out.

90 Responses to “Entire BNP Membership List Leaked Online”

  1. sam S Says:

    Deleted maybe, though certain Bit Torrent sites are ’sharing’ it.
    The downloads are going like hotcakes!
    I imagine there’s gonna be a lot of fallout from this one.

  2. RickB Says:

    I expect they are, it is not difficult to find but I won’t link to it and I agree with Andy Newman-

    My sympathy for BNP members is very limited, but the left should not stoop to personal intimidation of those we oppose politically.
    http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=3100

    However if you choose to look and find out someone you know is a member I think it is fair to ask them about their politics and how they justify being in a fascist racist party.

  3. harpymarx Says:

    What happens if there are people who are in identifiable positions of power over others? Such teachers, social workers, coppers, screws and so on. What about issues of discrimination, racism and equal opps? And what about BNP members who are in trade unions? I think people should be politically confronted and asked why they are a member of a fascist organisation.

  4. RickB Says:

    Yes I see your point, I mean for some jobs it is against the rules, I think it should be viewed responsibly and certainly no vigilantism. But yes a workplace would have an interest/duty(?) in confronting someone listed in respect to the legislation you quote.
    Even if it is taken down it will be saved in multiple places by now, I suppose their mistake was thinking even the master race can keep data private…

  5. Samir Says:

    Where is this list? The blogspot link seems to have been taken down.

  6. Mark starbuck Says:

    Now I can tell which places to avoid when looking for a job. What have they got to hide? Or is it just not nice to know when you’re known by the country as being slightly more racist then average

    ‘ everyones a little bit racist ‘

  7. Sam S Says:

    ‘My sympathy for BNP members is very limited, but the left should not stoop to personal intimidation of those we oppose politically.’

    I agree completely.
    What I am now about to say might get flamed, but I also do not believe that absolutely everyone who is a member is an out-and-out fascist either. Many are simply misguided and unable/do not want to see the truth in what the party really stands for. Many have roped their own kids in too (YBNP) I don’t think it’s right to hate someone due to ignorance/stupidity on their part.

    And yes – when something like this hits the net it’s not going to disappear anytime soon.

  8. WHW Says:

    From The Times: “If we find out the name of the person who published this list, it will turn out to be one of the most foolish things they have done in their life. I wouldn’t want to have done that — I wouldn’t be sleeping very well tonight.” http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5183833.ece

    It is statements like that which just prove how racist and right winged the BNP are, which is why I have no sympathy for the part or any of it’s members. As for the children’s names why are they even on the list? What are they listed as… Future Racists of England???

  9. Red Squirrel Says:

    FUCK YOU ALL YOU TRAITOUROUS CUNTS!
    I am NOT afraid!
    This is war! And I for one am READY!

  10. homelessgirl Says:

    I was desperately looking for the list but could not find it, the shocking thing for me is that these are people that you see on the street. teachers, policemen e.t.c and I think the reason they join thee groups is because of bitterness and foolishness indoctrinated over years. How can you live with yourself when you spend your day hating others.

  11. Dave Says:

    This bnp ls not correct in that it is no all members. it includes people like me who they send crap to, we got it stopped, but are still on this list. we are not members this is wrong.

  12. RickB Says:

    Samir- I expect it is still out there albeit in torrent or download form.

    Mark starbuck- Perhaps the BNP could adopt that as a slogan- slightly more racist then average.

    SamS- What I would hope comes form this is members who are not dribbling idiots are challenged on their membership and once they think about it reject the BNP, although that’s probably a tiny number, I think those who might think of voting BNP can be reached but members are probably pretty hopeless. I expect kids are on there because someone who would join will also impose an authoritarian home life (likely with corporal punishment) and force their children to have the same beliefs.

    WHW- They demonstrate why they are such losers again, they can’t resist making thuggish veiled threats. And again for the kids as above people in the BNP would not be into giving their kids a choice or space to think for themselves.

    Red Squirrel- Thanks Red Squirrel, we’ll let you know when the war starts, until then best just stand ready in your bunker eating cold beans out of the can and masturbating, we will let you know, honest.

    homelessgirl- Again, it is findable if you look but again people should be openly questioned about their membership not persecuted. However yes, people with power and authority (especially over children) should be made to account for themselves and obviously in some case membership is proscribed so they will lose their jobs. But such is being a racist and a fascist you make hate the centre of your life and don’t be surprised if people want to reject that. I expect they live with themselves the same way many do, unless you are made to confront and question things a lot of people just avoid it, people muddle along, how they came to such a hateful position though…maybe a more useful question is why our culture creates and nurtures such things, royalty, nationalism, imperialism, capitalism, Mail/Express/Sun, Jeremy Kyle etc all make cultural space for these numpties.

  13. Carson Park Ranger Says:

    “This is war! And I for one am READY!”

    People who rant like this are never ready.

  14. ralfast Says:

    Well, that map is handy. When I moved to the UK, I’ll know where NOT to look for housing.

  15. dogfish Says:

    My psychiatrist is on the list. Also the entire alien crew from Mars Attacks!

  16. JohnBulls**t Says:

    I think that we need a balanced debate about the issues that the BNP latch on to. In my opinion no one is representing the white working class people in this country. It is not good enough to deride these people’s concerns as racist and it is because no one addresses these issues that a power vacuum exists that the BNP only too happily move into.

    I would hope that there are those on the ‘left’ intelligent enough to see this and have a mature debate about the effects of immigration. Let’s face it, it’s not the middle classes who are suffering when there isn’t enough council housing and other much needed facilities for the existing population.

  17. Red Squirrel Says:

    Fuck Andy Newman especially! He’s a big girls blouse. He inviterd that twat Galloway to Swindon and the only photo in the Adver was of Galloway talkibng to one of the Halal butchers in whoregreen lol.

  18. Red Squirrel Says:

    And what do you do ‘Carson Park Ranger’? Wank all day?

  19. Wrasse Says:

    I’ve always thought that the method of slaughter whereby a conscious animals throat is slit and the terrified beast dies by blood loss is a form of cruelty which should not be allowed. Whether a jewish or an Islamic incantation is recited it is still a barbaric act. And only political correctness safeguards the existence of this practice. Those who oppose bull fighting- double standards perhaps.

  20. homelessgirl Says:

    WOW, red squirrel your an idiot and please don’t comment on my blog. Or any were people don’t have a skewed view of humanity and the world. And why are you angry that your name was published it shows you obviously know that being a member of the Bnp is something to be ashamed of.

  21. custador Says:

    Lol @ Red Squirrel…. It’s easy to spot the people of limited intelligence, isn’t it *looks at Red Squirrel*

  22. steve Says:

    red squirrel is gay and half cast

  23. RickB Says:

    Carson Park Ranger- Maybe he had someone else stand guard while he typed?!?!?

    Rafael- You are guaranteed a warm welcome from the republic of TenPercent wherever you go!

    dogfish- I doubt it as the list is genuine despite claims to the contrary.

    JohnBulls**t- It’s alright you can say bullshit, (never been safe for work) I disagree there are not people who represent the working class and I do not think it is necessary to emphasise white above other ethnic groups. I also think it is unlikely someone who is concerned with fighting racism could be comfortable in the BNP. And again the concentration on immigration is a red herring that ignores real issues regarding capitalism and the ruling class who are the reason we lack social housing. Migrants should be our allies in getting better social conditions not opponents.

    Red Squirrel- I quite like big girl’s blouses, don’t see why the buttons have to be different though.

    Wrasse- I’m not letting your comment through about people being on the list especially as it was incorrect.
    Well frankly as a vegetarian all meat eating is pretty horrible to me, but the issues of slaughtering methodology have to approached with cultural understanding and respect not used as an issue to drum up xenophobia. In fact meat eating is also an environmental issue, all people should reduce meat consumption as it uses for greater resources per calorie than grains, vegetables etc.

    homelessgirl- I think maybe some cognitive dissonance is present in members, hence the shame.

  24. SuperMonkey Says:

    I am a perfectly rational normal human being and I totally support SOME of their policies. As well as being opposed to others. People should not be persecuted beacuse of their political beliefs and that is exactly what will happen when this list gets out. It is totally unfair that these people may lose their jobs and be singled out because their names were on a suppsedly private list. What you believe politically has nothing to do with whether or not you can do your job. Would you be sacked for being too liberal and left wing? amazing double standard

  25. wrasse Says:

    Not much respect to the animal who is suffering whatever spin you wish to put on it. But as to making slaughter methods a stick with which to beat foreigners I have a saying don’t wee on my back and try to tell me its raining. I’ve made a narrow point about methods of slaughter. What is right is right and what is wrong is wrong. You’ve taken the easy escape in labelling my point as a racist issue which actually exists only in your mind. Have some real stomach. But I respect your point of view nevertheless.

  26. RickB Says:

    SuperMonkey- the politics of the BNP necessarily infringe the basic rights of other people which makes it beyond simple political opinions. Membership is a strong indicator a person will treat some people differently based on ethnicity or political views which does impact how a job is done.

    wrasse- You seem a tad defensive, relax. Such absolutes are nice in theory but in real world application it is a little more complex. Are you a vegetarian or a vegan?

  27. ralfast Says:

    “I am a perfectly rational normal human being”.

    Sorry but I think that falls in the category of “If you got to say then it probably isn’t true”.

    Not that you are not a rational human being (perfectly, well is anyone perfect, mate?), but… I mean its like when someone says “I am not a racist but….”. Just a bad choice of words.

    I tend to agree with what you say SM, especially on the persecution part but I got to ask, when does a party platform becomes unacceptable? I mean just because they might throw a bit of logic in the mix does not make the whole thing palatable, now does it?

  28. Jeremiah The Litigeous Says:

    I had no idea what the BNP was. I had to google it to find an article that actually explained it to some degree. Whites only party that actually carries weight in your government?

    That seems so crazy to me.

    Commenting from the U.S.

  29. Curly Says:

    I have huge issues with this, I am a libertarian and I value my privacy and personal details greatly. If I were a member of any political party I would be most unhappy if my name, address, telephone numbers, email addresses, and my childrens’ names were made readily available via the modern media.

    All of us deserve to have our own personal data securely looked after and this breach is as bad as any that has occurred under the watch of our Labour government for instance.

    Much as I despise the policies of the BNP we must acknowledge that we are fortunate enough (for now) to live in a relatively free liberal democracy which allows people to pick and choose their political parties. The BNP members deserve the same protection as any other members of society, known political affiliation does not give others the right to harrass, threaten, or intrude upon privacy.

    I have set out my thoughts in my own blog post on the issue.

  30. tommy Says:

    So let me get this straight. BNP man/woman moves house and yet the address is still listed as being BNP according to “the list”. Surely this list is putting innocent lives at risk? What if a family, non related and against the BNP’s policies move into that home, and are then firebombed or subjected to harassment?
    I am on that list, in fact I never was or never planned on being a BNP member, I simply registered on their email list for a few months. I’m also on various other email subscriptions from left to right wing sites and political organisations.

    What really gets me, is I have since moved address so the unfortunate folk that now live in my home may get targeted.

    I have contacted the BNP, my local MP and am considering legal action to have my name removed and to sue whomever was behind this mess.

  31. British lady Says:

    Why do some of you have to use such vile language?

  32. aabi Says:

    The leaked BNP members list exposes white Christian racists who would never elect a non-white prime minister; who killed Princess Diana for having a Muslim boyfriend. In order to protect the racists, the BNP list disappeared from the Internet within hours. Anti-Muslims disinformation is available from thousands of websites for years. This only proves, beyond any reasonable doubt, that webpage ban laws only work to protect the white Christian and Jewish American and European racist cowards who are not prepared to be named and shamed, and defend their covert abhorrent race hate and criminal acts on TV for the world. The print/air media, law makers, politicians, judges and the law enforcement agencies help protect the BNP cowards. Registered, legitimate and elected white Christian party and their government officials killed Jews in Germany!

    The BNP members list would help enforce enforcement agencies, judges and juries. Some BNP members have committed criminal acts against non-whites in the UK. They intimidate, harass, assault, burn and kill British ethnic minorities, including that poor unarmed Brazilian guy who looked like a Muslim, gunned down by police in London in 2005. Some BNP members have also published race-hate material against Jews and Muslims on/offline for years and not banned. The BNP has violated Data Protection Act and Human Rights Act, and it may be sued by mental racist BNP members. All that and more is in public interest. Are there any brave bloggers who dare to expose racists in other political parties, businesses, police force, prison service, NHS, judicial system, CPS, etc. etc?

  33. missbristol Says:

    red squirrel
    fuck off back to the tree you came from mate
    you have deeply rooted issues, and being a bmp supporter probably makes you a psychopath too. basically not only does it make you racist, but generally it is an excuse to be a truly horrible, inhumane creature. you dont deserve to walk this earth being protected and helped by people who pay for you by means of healthcare, education, and more. oh yeh, and those people? theyr a mix of races. if you get smashed up in a car accident by some pure bread english person and an african english person fixes you up, your lifes in his hands mate. and i bet he has the heart, and the balls to fix you, and when you wake up and carry on being a racist bastard and he sees that, i bet he uses his faith and sanity to assure himself that you were worth saving, although you werent. your nothing mate, thats why cowards like you need to hide behind the bnp. being in a shitty after school club doesnt make it ok mate.
    last of all, these details being leaked does not mean war. there will be no war, nor anything done about what has happened. and just so you know, the person who decided to leak the details does not represent the hundreds of thousands of people who are not b.n.p. members. theres a whole fucking world out there……..

  34. t harry Says:

    Rick B-”Wrasse- I’m not letting your comment through about people being on the list especially as it was incorrect.”

    Red Squirrel- “FUCK YOU ALL YOU TRAITOUROUS CUNTS!”

    please
    explain
    math..?

  35. Zorgon the Nosey Says:

    I joined the BNP to get access to their closed meetings and members only websites. They really do appear to be as racist as we all thought. Job done. However, I was feeling a little uncomfortable earlier when I considered that some pratt may not care to ask why I joined and just assume I was one of ‘them’. Interesting situation indeed. Unfortunately, this is also the best publicity the BNP has had in ages. Most complex situation, to be sure. Ah well…

  36. RickB Says:

    Jeremiah The Litigeous- they have little national power, a few local council seats but they have affected politics and made scape-goating migrants a common tactic for all parties which is appalling.

    Curly- I think yes privacy is important but this was their own disgruntled member apparently and if fascists are ashamed of their politics maybe they should ask themselves why that is so. Also on equality grounds membership does present problems in many areas, they do not accept full rights for all people so that can’t be ignored.

    British lady- Yes some of the grammar has been atrocious (not least me, but hey, that’s ’style’)

    aabi- well I can sympathise with your passion, but membership is not per se a criminal thing, rather I would challenge their views in the open but society wide I do think we need to do a lot more to fight bigotry. Where they do print bigoted stuff or attack people they should be prosecuted and it is true we have a problem where right wing terrorism is treated differently (much more sympathetically by our establishment) to other terrorist groups.

    missbristol- gotta dig that passion, I’m sure squirrel can take it, but you make a good point about how social institutions are made of many people and we rely on a vast diversity of people to live as a society.

    t harry- wrasse named a person (somewhat jokingly perhaps but also they were someone the BNP hate so it could work as a smear to those without the facts) they are not on the list. The Squirrel language is someone’s free speech and I do not mind swearing at all even if I disagree with the (somewhat hilariously daft) sentiment.

    Zorgon- Not sure it’s working as good publicity, but your predicament does mean people need to approach any information from this responsibly and engage in words not violence. Has your period with them led to any writing or reporting on the inside story?

  37. velvet swimmer Says:

    aabi, only some helpful, humanitarian advice. You’re clearly in need of some form of mental health care. Please seek help as soon as possible after this rant which made you seem a lunatic. God loves us all

  38. missbristol Says:

    when aabi mentiones, “police force, prison service, NHS, judicial system, CPS, etc. etc?” i wonder if people are really aware of what this means. do you ever think, what does it mean if a policeman is racist? what difference does it make to a person’s life if they are the innocent victims of discrimination at a time when they are literally at the mercy of another person? and the police as a public service serves to uphold the law in a way that protects innocent people. talk about clouded judgement. it’s a very dangerous situation.

    i do appreciate that some people like to delude themselves into thinking that the bnp is there to protect “this country” from those scary outsiders (gget off my turf!!! etc) but you know, its really not ok to do that. if you agree with the maggot scratcher’s idea that we should all walk slanting to the left but you dont like it’s policy on your child’s lunch being more expensive then you dont vote for them. i would say that the cons of the bnp slightly outweigh the pros. i would say that those who have not read the fine print, ought to. i would also say that anyone who thinks they are doing a service to this country by voting bnp has been brainwashed. if you have a problem with immigration then please direct it at the government in power and not at flesh and blood human beings with still beating hearts in their diversely varied ethnic bodies.

    to rick b-
    thanks. i cant help being a little tetchy about wankers like that when iv spent my first day with a new bunch of kids in a new school, and this particular school was so big on cultural diversity, and they were all so passionate and positive and it was really something beautiful to see so many faces and religions and really, i feel on the defense of them all growing up in a time when people LIKE THAT are so fucking full of themselves, when they are so wrong, and so damaging, and so fucking pig ignorant. i know iv seen it in my generation. i think the next one deserves better. its less to do with political correctness and more to do with not being a fucking HATIST person!
    i would love to see the statistics of the worldwide population, and how many of them are ‘classed’ as white, compared to the rest. what fucking right do bnps think they have??!!!

  39. missbristol Says:

    PS
    i forgot to say

    To British lady, in response to:
    “Why do some of you have to use such vile language?”

    at the risk of upsetting you, i know i sound patronising but the language is due to people having what you would call passionate views on this issue. did you actually have something to contribute? i find it hard to see that you read this whole article, and the most that you thought about it was, “ooh the swearing unnerved me..!”

    i dont know about you british lady, but the bnp make me feel ashamed to be british.

  40. Steve in the swamps Says:

    In response to RickB: Regarding the support of this leak.

    Hitler and the past fascist leaders would have supported this move as well. If you want to justify leaks of political membership, just remember the wind can blow both ways.

    If this leak is justifiable, then so are future leaks of opposing party memberships, if and when the BNP becomes the top party.

  41. Alfred Vella Says:

    Good on whoever leaked the BNP list.
    Now can we have the same for the Masons? or would that be just too much for the establishment?

  42. sker Says:

    Immigration is simply a numbers game. Nothing to do with colour, race or religion. Simply too many people in this island. Indisputable.

  43. decaying Britain Says:

    steve Says:
    19 November, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    red squirrel is gay and half cast
    Half cast is spelt half “CASTE” try using cross breed or hybrid, its easier to spell.

    Another red illiterate that left school at 14 no doubt

  44. RickB Says:

    missbristol- Well more power to those kids may they make a world better than our one. (and yeah in case white racists haven’t noticed they ain’t the master race in ability or numbers)

    Steve in the swamps- well as it was BNP member apprently that did it it shows something I suppose, Hitler isn’t really an applicable metaphor, this is democracy and membership is not criminalised. I know ‘Time Trumpet’ had a woman BNP PM but that was satire…

    Alfred Vella- to be honest I think more use would be every person that went to public school to turn bright purple, won’t be many purple bin men.

    sker- Amazingly simply stating an assertion does not make it indisputable and if you’re really worried you could lead by example and leave.

  45. missbristol Says:

    alfred vella:
    here, here!
    maybe we need to do as zorgon said above, and “join the freemasons in order ” to get access to their closed meetings and members only websites”

    (not sure i see that logic nosey, but i really like your screen name,
    i have also just discovered that there is a missbristol who has a blog on wordpress, please dont email her ranting about my foul language because it would be incredibly harsh!)

  46. Sker Says:

    My answer to that is that the best people in Britain are leaving in droves. I ‘m too poor and unskilled to leave the quagmire but no doubt you can pick and choose and shout and ball in security.

  47. Graeme Pirie Says:

    Well, unlike the rest of you I have posted with my full name.

    I find it disgusting that peoples political beliefs are used to sack them from their jobs, and I hope that any who are take it to every court they can think of.

    The BNP is a perfectly legal political party & rather than slander their membership the other parties might be better off wondering why the electorate are choosing to join other parties. It’s quite simple, the “main” parties care only about themselves, not the voters.

    I’m sorely tempted to join the BNP just because of all the fuss.

    And by the way I’d see it as much more embarrasing being caught supporting labour these days…

  48. LincsLad Says:

    I just checked the list for teachers in this area – fortunately none. I can’t see how any headteacher could employ a member of an organisation which bans ‘non-indiginous’ people from joining. A party which excludes people on racial grounds is racist, and parents of ‘non-indiginous’ pupils are quite justified in complaining if their child’s teacher believes that they are second class citizens.
    The BNP have some policies which are not directly racist, such as providing fruit for school children. The only thing is, it should be British fruit, so no oranges, grapes or bananas in school any more.
    As far as I can see, no-one has advocated violence against anyone on the list. However, there are some jobs for which racists are eminently unsuitable, and if this list exposes racists in those jobs, the sooner they go the better.
    Surfing for this story was a joy. Every time, every site that someone made a guarded comment about the BNP not being very nice people, someone like Red Squirrel came along and did a far better job of confirming people’s fears of what the BNP are like. Stories like this bring them out of the woodwork and let us see what these people are really like.

  49. Steve in the swamps Says:

    “well as it was BNP member apprently that did it it shows something I suppose, Hitler isn’t really an applicable metaphor, this is democracy and membership is not criminalised. ”

    –RickB

    I don’t know all the exact specifics of the leak, but the principle is still present. Regardless of the official position/affiliation of the leaker, he took an action opposed to the BNP. As a democratic party, the BNP has a right to keep its membership list private, and what the leaker did was disgusting and inappropriate. Members also have a right to privacy, even if companies don’t like their political parties.

    I am not accusing you of taking a particular position, and I am not naming names; but I have seen commenters defending this leak. They justify it, in revealing “evil racist nazis!”

    My point is that the BNP is a legitimate and legal political party, contrary to the wishes of the anti-White companies (which discriminate against Britons, on political membership and political viewpoints). Depriving the BNP members of their privacy contradicts democratic ideals.

    Even though the BNP is technically legal now, it doesn’t mean it always will be. Now, people are open to intimidation from peers and non-peers, acts of violence (there have been cases of radical Muslims killing BNP and NPD members), and potentially in a worst case scenario, a fascist-like state based on “egalitarian” ideals, seeking action against members on the BNP list.

    This is what I mean, by the loss of human privacy, and consequentially political rights.

  50. Steve in the swamps Says:

    LincsLad,

    How would you like others to look up your personal information, based on your political beliefs?

    Would you like to be fired, because of your personal political beliefs and/or political party?

    In another time White racists would want you to agree with them, just as White “anti-racists” are turning on their own.

    Also, how do you know every BNP member is a “racist?” Can’t members of a politcal party have different viewpoints, just as Republican Social Conservatives and Liberterians tend to disagree on social issues and illegal immigration. In the 1930’s, the Democratic Party was supported by ethnocentric White Southerners and ethnocentric Blacks. It’s a bit unfair to associate people with particular views, just because they belong to a politcal party, whichin many may (and do) have opposing viewpoints!

  51. David Says:

    The best way to beat thr BNP is to give them all the exposure they want.Let them go on Question Time,News Night, et al,and discuss their policies and philosohpy.Anybody with half a brain will see them for what they are.At the moment the media’s reluctance to give them air time enables them to pose as free speech martyrs and stops the public from seeing them defend their policies in an informed debate where they can be directy challenged.
    This has allways struc me as a bit of an ‘own goal’by the media.

  52. Michael James Henry Long Says:

    @Graeme Pirie
    Don’t you have any middle names?

    When you say:
    “I find it disgusting that peoples political beliefs are used to sack them from their jobs, and I hope that any who are take it to every court they can think of.”
    Do you mean like the European Court of Human Rights? because if so, that would be funny.

    and then there’s:
    “I’m sorely tempted to join the BNP just because of all the fuss.”
    Oh yes, just for a laugh, right?

  53. Graeme Pirie Says:

    What about the “Black Police Association”, isn’t that racist?

    Yet a policman can be sacked for being in the BNP but not the above?

  54. Isaac Says:

    - to Graeme Pirie – they may be a legitimate political party, but they’re also a fascist political party. and hence what happened seventy years ago with that incident with Hitler (you know) people tend to think that fascism isn’t too good.

  55. mauricemcleod Says:

    If your political views mean you discriminate against someone you have power over then you should be fired for doing a bad job.
    If you do your job well and fairly then your political views should be your own business.
    Having said that the BNP is a vile orgnisation that has thrived on drumming up hatred and intimidating various ethnic groups for years. If they get a little intimidation back then, although it might not be legal, I certainly won’t be shedding any tears.

  56. jimmyriddle Says:

    Wikileak is a good resource for censored information

  57. Ian Richards Says:

    Why should people who join a registered political party be persicuted for their beliefs. To my recolection i have not seen the BNP as theat to any individuals or orginasiations. Why the out cry?
    How can people who are BNP members be ‘not very nice people’ By making such a quote does that make every Muslim a terrorist ? I think not!!!!
    As from the last time i checked this was a free country, where by we all had a freedom of speach, the same freedom of speak as a certain Dr Hook did when preaching in a public, on a public street!!!!! No public out cry??? Why???
    How a lot of people out there who preach to be PC would not object to said street preaching would how ever like to gag a political party.

  58. oldestandwisest Says:

    A political organization in a democracy is, by its very nature, a PUBLIC organization and the names of its members ought to be available to the public. Political organizations whose members’ names are secret (like the Ku Klux Klan) have no place in a free society. So the posting of the membership list of the BNP was perfectly fair (so long as that list was totally accurate)–just like it was perfectly fair to reveal the names of US Communist party members when the Soviet subversion network was being uncovered in this country in the 1950s by HUAC and other investigative bodies.

  59. roxy Says:

    I have just have 4 threatening calls in the last hour due to my ex husband being a member of the bnp. My address and phone number is apparently on this list although I haven’t seen it yet. Fortunately the idiot forgot to withold his number which I have now passed to the police. I am now a target for something I don’t believe in and never have.

  60. LincsLad Says:

    Steve in the swamp
    I have no problem with people knowing my political beliefs. I’m not a member of any party, because there is no party at the moment that matches what I believe. I wouldn’t join a party unless I agreed with all its main policies, and so don’t have much sympathy for anyone stating that they are in the BNP but don’t agree with racism.

    If my beliefs meant that there was a risk that I would not be performing my job properly, I would be quite happy to get sacked. I’m a teacher. If I was a devoted follower of the Taliban and disagreed with the education of girls, I would expect to be sacked from a mixed sex school. I would also expect to lose my job if I was a member of a paedophile group, even if I hadn’t commited any illegal acts. If I was in the BNP, an organisation which bans membership on grounds of colour and supports the deportation of ‘non-indiginous’ people, there would be a valid concerns about me teaching a class with ‘non-indiginous’ pupils. (I believe that the military also reserve the right to dismiss conscientious objectors because of their beliefs). HOWEVER, the GTC have stated that a teacher cannot be dismissed simply for being a member of the BNP. Only the police and prison service have this right.

    The whole point about political parties is that they serve as a focus for people with similar beliefs. The BNP is, sadly, a one trick pony. They have no plausible economic polices. Their education policies are a joke. When I last looked, the BNP policy was to have a ’star chamber’ where all teachers would be questioned to weed out anyone with unsuitable beliefs. The very policy which some in this party are now complaining about.
    They have a strong policy on crime, including bringing back the death penalty, and yet have a convicted terrorist as a senior party figure, who was jailed for possession of explosives. They want a strong National Health service, at the same time as sending most its staff (non-white) back to their country of racial origin. They want strong industry but would follow a protectionist policy and pull the UK out of the European Union, our greatest export market.
    Racism is the keystone of BNP policies. Its members may squabble over minor details, but they are united by an irrational fear and dislike of anyone who does not look and speak the same way that they do. Just the same as it would be fair to asume that all members of the Communist party had fairly strong left-wing beliefs.

    Steve, you reveal your true colours when you make comments like “anti-White companies (which discriminate against Britons”. Being British is a nationality, anti-white refers to colour, and they do not mean the same thing. Many Britons are not white. Many white people in this country are not British.

  61. LincsLad Says:

    “Why should people who join a registered political party be persicuted for their beliefs.”
    - Who is being persecuted? How?

    “To my recolection i have not seen the BNP as theat to any individuals or orginasiations. Why the out cry?”
    - Fortunately, my recollection is better than yours. I can recollect a ‘white’ landlady in Reading having her pub windows broken and BNP graffiti sprayed after she found a ‘black’ partner. I can recollect a former BNP member planting nail bombs in London which killed Mrs Andrea Dykes, 27, John Light, 32 and Nick Moore, 31. They were on their way to see a musical together to celebrate Mrs Dykes’s pregnancy.
    Until he was sacked in 2006 for allegedly attempting to hire a hit man to assasinate a politician, the effective Deputy Leader of the BNP was Tony Lecomber. In 1985 he was jailed after injuring himself in an attempted arson attack on another political party. Police found 10 grenades, seven petrol bombs and two detonators at his home. In 1991 he was jailed for three years for attacking a Jewish teacher. Griffin then chose him to help secure his leadership.

    “How can people who are BNP members be ‘not very nice people’ By making such a quote does that make every Muslim a terrorist ? I think not!!!!”
    - ‘not very nice’ is clearly just an opinion. I suppose it depends whether you think that racism is nice or not. If racism is not nice, it’s not hard to see why members of a racist party are seen in the same light.

    “As from the last time i checked this was a free country, where by we all had a freedom of speach, ”
    -There has never been absolute freedom of speech in this country. The BNP has the freedom to express its views, as long as they do not incite racial hatred or violence, the same as every other organisation.

    “the same freedom of speak as a certain Dr Hook did when preaching in a public, on a public street!!!!! No public out cry??? Why???”
    - Dr Hook? ‘When You’re In love With A Beautiful Woman’?? If you are referring to Abu Hamza, he was jailed in 2006 on 11 charges, including three of “using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with the intention of stirring up racial hatred”. Looks like he didn’t have any more freedom of speech.

    “How a lot of people out there who preach to be PC would not object to said street preaching would how ever like to gag a political party.”
    - Who on this site has called for a political party to be gagged?

  62. Steve in the swamps Says:

    LincsLad, I respect you for being an equal opportunist, and not a hypocrite.

    However, there is dissent within virtually all politically parties. Roxy is a prime example of a listee, persecuted, even though see is a non-racist. I also disagree with “guilt” by political party association. I don’t think members of a politcal party should be wrongly associated with an individual’s personal life (#1 Republican, Bush was arrested for a DUI; and #2 Democrat, Biden was presumably caught with plagiarism; but their supporters don’t support such things).

    One is not racist, just for belonging to a party. But for the sake of argument, let’s say one is.
    I think a White racist taking a job, interacting with non-Whites, is worrisome. However, the important thing is fairness. As long as he/she treats everybody fairly (in his/her job), ignores race (for the functions of his/her job), and works for the best interest of the company. The governing staff should only fire him, if it could prove that racial beliefs are hindering the person from performing his/her duties.

    I would support firing racists, if it proved their racism prevented them from properly performing their jobs and/or put people at risk. But I don’t think one should be fired solely for personal beliefs.

    I know this is sometimes hard for some to accept, including myself. However, I believe freedom of personal thought is not something to take lightly.

  63. Carson Park Ranger Says:

    Apologies to British Lady. Red Squirrel resorts to the most common vulgarities when respectable people step upon him. It must be Short Rodents Syndrome.

  64. bm Says:

    red squirrel needs to calm down,the shame of being exposed on this list [which has been taken off air very quickly] has obviously upset hundreds, interesting how many are “no longer” memebers or “joined out of interest” or “joined to work undercover against the BNP” etc.
    What it seems to expose is a split in the BNP, which had not been very well publicised, until now. Some people may believe that any publicity is good publicity, perhaps not in this case. Nick Griffin looks less healthy than Gordon Brown and that’s saying something. Nor does he know which way up the Union Jack should fly (neither do I but the difference is I don’t care, his sort do).

  65. bm Says:

    “Memeber”? oops. My spelling is as bad as poor red squiggle.

  66. Canter Says:

    I cant believe you people in Britain. This is a lynching based on political views which is fascist itself. Far left marxists are much more fascist than any other. So when a party wants to stop immigration because the native country is packed and cant support all of them, they are “far right racists”? Whats sad is that these attacks are coming from actual native British who are watching their once great nation be intentionally destroyed, and vilifying those who want to save their own country as being racista and ignorant- words that are used when you have no other argument.

    So the native British people who have lived their and defended Britain for how many thousand years are racist and idiots if they want to protect their culture? You are confusing a multcultural world for a multicultural society, as multicultural societies destroy that country’s culture.

    So you dont care that you will be minorities in the country your ancestors have lived and fought for for 1000s of years in less than a century (Im assuming you people are white)? You are accepting your own suicide and attacking those who want to keep their country and traditions, something unique about Britain in the world. Thats not important to you? Well i guess Darwin said the most fit will survive, and when a people is not willing to live and reproduce, then they dont deserve to survive. Rest in peace Britain, maybe the Netherlands and France are too late and too marxist as well, but the rest of Europe will not fall without a fight.

  67. RickB Says:

    Canter you are deluded, ‘native British people’… do you know how many invasions and settlements have happened to these isles, racial purity is nonsense and as you bring Darwin into it such isolationist eugenics produce weak inbred congenital idiots. Diversity is always preferable scientifically, culturally emotionally.
    And I suppose by ‘once great nation’ you mean our imperialist past, try entertaining a viewpoint outside of your myopic nationalism and you will find the glories we were lied about by our ruling class look somewhat different to those on the receiving end. And frankly have you ever read any Marx, because those who bandy it around as a slur clearly are not engaged in a discourse of merit.

  68. Nick van man Says:

    The problem is only that every party’s membership list is not similarly available.

  69. ralfast Says:

    “Native British people”?

    You mean the Britons, before after the Roman invasion? Maybe the Welsh, Scots or the people down in Corwall (just saw a show on the Travel Channel about it, looks great). Maybe you mean the Angles, or the Saxons, the Vikings or even the Normans?

    BTW Canter, did you know that the “Queen’s English” is really, well there is no other way of saying this,….

    French?

  70. ralfast Says:

    Oh, and what nation does these “natives” belong to anyway? Great Britain/UK, well that didn’t exist until the Act of Union and I hear the Scots are seeking to reverse that. Perhaps you meant Britannia, but alas the Empire died a painful and long death between the Irish War of Independence and Hong Kong reverting Chinese rule.

    Perhaps that wonderful nation which 007 keeps killing people for, except that of the three best Bonds, only one is English, the other two are Irish and Scot (respectively) and old Sean is on the side of the Bonnie Prince Charlie and the separatist up north.

    BTW, that brings another question, is this nation you speak off Protestant or Catholic? I ask because if I recall correctly there was a time the Kings of England worshiped at Rome’s altar.

  71. ralfast Says:

    And talking about the Kings and Queens of England, what is up with all the kilts?

  72. EA (European American) Steve Says:

    What if this is what the BNP is worried about?:

    -amren.com/videos/20060203london_protest/index.html-

    Is this the power structure British “liberals” want so badly?

    These people are racist, anti-semitic, anti-gay rights, and misogynist. They are even more ethnocentric than many (I bet most) of the BNP members, I bet. No?

    I am not British, but my heart goes out to the British people.

  73. RickB Says:

    EA (European American) Steve- I have disabled the clickable nature of your link but people may copy and use it if they must. The site you link to is a white supremacist site full of race hatred which rather tells me where you are coming from. So to complain about ” racist, anti-semitic, anti-gay rights, and misogynist.” is dishonest, and to utilise that is a shameful way to spread your ignorant fear. Save your sympathies.

  74. EA (European American) Steve Says:

    RickB, linking to a site does not imply endorsement. I don’t endorse it, and just linking thereto does not imply I agree with all of the views and/or opinions thereof.

    I would have posted a hyperlink to a site which wants me exterminated, if I found the link or information therein useful.

  75. RickB Says:

    It goes to the standard of evidence and such a site has zero worth particularly if you are looking to make a point about prejudice. Although finding other groups to assign bigotry to does demonstrate the poverty of any defence of the BNP’s positions.

  76. LincsLad Says:

    Steve – your idea of only sacking people when racism is proved to interfere with their jobs seems to be the policy followed in this country by everyone except the police and prison service. From what I have seen so far, no-one has lost their job over being a BNP member, and no-one so far has suffered violence because their name was on the list. On the same day that the list was leaked, the governing body for teaching here confirmed in court that political belief is not a valid reason for a teacher to be fired.
    For the police to ban BNP membership makes sense when the OJ Simpson case is recalled. His defence team were able to discredit a key police witness by alleging racism. The only serving police officer on the BNP list has been suspended pending investigation. Although Talk Radio said it would not be offering the DJ on the list a contract, he had only been a temporary worker anyway and was not employed by them at this time .
    I agree that the behaviour of any individual in a party should not taint the whole membership. All our political parties have their fair share of crooks, although few have had senior figures arrested for possession of grenades. However, all the main British parties have policies to limit immigration. All the main British parties have policies to protect the environment. All the main parties promise to reduce crime. Only the BNP limit membership by race, and have a policy of paying people to leave the country based on their racial origin.

  77. LMAO Says:

    BNP LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

  78. Harry Mann Says:

    “Arthur Miller, are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?”

  79. RickB Says:

    What is this, false equivalency week? The US Communist party didn’t discriminate on grounds of race, nor are their govt hearings into BNP membership with a view to imprisoning them. These are not McCarthyite witch-hunts.
    People don’t like the BNP because it’s a racist fascist party, it ain’t rocket science.

  80. Greenman Says:

    @ Wrasse….. Not attacking your statement, but Halal & Kosher slaughter is no more cruel than any other kind of slaughter – it maybe looks a little messier to the squeamish, but the effect of cutting the arteries in the animal causes such an immediate drop in blood pressure that it creates immediate loss of consciousness, rapid death and the animal feels no more pain than any other method – and possibly less. This can be scientifically shown by the levels of adrenalin in the animal’s carcass (released by stress), which tends to be lower in halal and kosher slaughter – and lower stress gives better meat quality. The only way to truly prevent animal suffering through slaughter is to be vegetarian – and that choice is for you to make.

  81. LincsLad Says:

    The irony of ‘Canter’
    1. We are being preached to about immigration by someone who appears to be a white American. Presumably the respect for native cultures and desire to send immigrant descendents back to their country of origin doesn’t apply to him/her. Otherwise Canter, learn Arapaho or ‘go home’.
    2. Of all our former colonies who are ‘destroying our country’s culture’ the worst offender is the USA. High Streets taken over by McDonalds and Pizza Hut, good old Asquith and Associated Dairies (ASDA) now part of Walmart, and children educationally harmed by the naming of Toys R Us. On the telly there is a daily diet of Simpsons, CSI, NCSI, and Terminator. Even the popular music charts cannot escape from Mr 50 Cent, Eminem, and their ilk. It is only in sport where our culture seems to survive, with rounders being retained as a playground game rather than something for grown-ups to get excited about. When our rugby played start wearing fully body armour I’ll know that there is no hope left. Can we close down all the American fast food chains? We’ll even let you keep David Beckham.

  82. roger Says:

    I was a member for 8-9 months, not active, just a member.
    When I found out what this party is really about, I refused to renew my subscription at the beginning of this year, so my name is on this list(as it is 2007), but I am not a member.

  83. ralfast Says:

    Welcome to the land of the sane Roger. Sorry for the inconvenience.

  84. Harry Says:

    aabi – “They intimidate, harass, assault, burn and kill British ethnic minorities, including that poor unarmed Brazilian guy who looked like a Muslim, gunned down by police in London in 2005.”

    There has never been such a crime of British people burning/killing ethnic minorities as you describe – the police who shot Jean Charles de Menezes “because he looked like a Muslim” as you foolishly stated – were not members of the BNP – they thought they were confronting a terrorist who was about to kill more people – but this was a mistake. Also, Muslims are not a race, they are a religion – therefore you are bending the truth for your own gain. And as for British people “burning” ethnic minorities – It was in fact a group of Muslims who burnt a Scottish teenager to death and whom committed the London bombings in 2005 killing innocent people. So can you please stop blaming British people for the wrong doings of others – unless of course you are a far left-wing supporter which seems terribly evident. I myself do not mind policies from both sides.

  85. RickB Says:

    Harry, aabi was passionate and angry but there were truths beneath what he wrote, racism is alive and ever present, the DeMenezes killing was not a simple mistake, the ‘Muslims are not a race, they are a religion’ bit is an oft used canard that whole technically true is largely a useless in discussions of racism and is often used to excuse racism, instead lets just say prejudice or bigotry then we can acknowledge the rising Islamophobia in Britain.
    I don’t think excluding UK killings around the world while focussing on terrorism is particularly helpful or honest in assessing matters and you might want to look a little closer at policies from the far right before not minding them.

  86. Simmy Says:

    roger Says:
    24 November, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    I was a member for 8-9 months, not active, just a member.
    When I found out what this party is really about, I refused to renew my subscription at the beginning of this year, so my name is on this list(as it is 2007), but I am not a member.
    roger you are so racist.Your lies are so easy to see through. As soon as the list was leaked, everybody is claming that they only joined to ‘bring it down from within’.roger, why would you join a group that you don’t know what it does.

  87. earwicga Says:

    88 comments – OMG isn’t that a significant Nazi number? It must be all true then!

  88. RickB Says:

    Indeed
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88_(number)#As_a_Neo-Nazi_symbol
    and now that number is changed, fascists lose!


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